In this here third episode of the second season of the It’s Complicated podcast, Megu and I talk about her psychodynamic training, the fast-paced nature of working at a psychiatric hospital, the best things to come out of a therapeutic relationship, and much more.

What happens when you combine art and therapy? Art therapy of course, and until recently that was about the only thing I knew about this modality. Or maybe this isn’t entirely true, because I also knew that art making in itself has a therapeutic effect, and this fascinating relationship is what I set out to explore in my conversation with Berlin-based art therapist Megu Kitazawa.

Have a listen through Spotify and Apple Music and read more about Megu’s work here.

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